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I screwed up today - many times
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So today the car was in the lift to get all the fluids changed.
We could not get the oil filter of - so we had to muscle it.
Result - leaking gasket - just my luck
So I am trying to order a new one - but can seem to get it right?
What should I order? It seems there are a few different ones on Moss page
Is it a 126 - 131 or 156 I am going for?
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/midget/engine/engines-components/engines-components-1275cc.html
Thanks!
1969 1275
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-31 06:07 PM by Skye.
We could not get the oil filter of - so we had to muscle it.
Result - leaking gasket - just my luck
So I am trying to order a new one - but can seem to get it right?
What should I order? It seems there are a few different ones on Moss page
Is it a 126 - 131 or 156 I am going for?
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/midget/engine/engines-components/engines-components-1275cc.html
Thanks!
1969 1275
69 Midget
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-31 06:07 PM by Skye.
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Do you not have a local auto parts store near you? I know that may be a dumb question, but I'm not familiar with Denmark....and in the US there are usually multiple parts outlets (AutoZone, NAPA, Advance, etc.) close by, and they'd likely have that filter in stock....
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In reply to # 2953320 by fairmounter
Trust me, there are no kids on this forum.
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Mark,
Please edit your subject line to make it more appropriate for this family-oriented forum...
Dick
Please edit your subject line to make it more appropriate for this family-oriented forum...
Dick
Don't be so sure of yourself about no kids on here, my 12 year old likes to check it out. I'm with Dick on this, "messed up" would had made sense.
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Appropriate language is a requirement of the forum rules.
I've edited the subject line. Now I have to do it for every reply in this topic.... sigh......
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I believe your filter is not original 1969, it is newer. take filter off, make sure old gasket is not stuck on bottom of holder and screw it back on, you may need another filter, it should come with gasket attached. I order a 1974 filter for my 1968 engine.
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Mark,
Please edit your subject line to make it more appropriate for this family-oriented forum...
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Please edit your subject line to make it more appropriate for this family-oriented forum...
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Howard, please edit your name to make it more appropriate for this family oriented forum. . .
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Oil filter O-ring or gasket on block leaking? The O-ring should slip back in after you unscrew it (Oh dear have I used the wrong word too?) unless it has been damaged. The paper gasket between the filter head and the block has to be one of the simplest to copy. Just use some cardboard from a Weeties packet . And don't over-screw (!) the filter. One full turn after the O-ring contacts is usually enough.
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Sorry - I do apologize for my header - I felt bad about it this morning when I woke up - I was just so frustrated last night.
I meant the gasket that goes behind the "holder" and the engine block - that is were it is leaking - not from the oilfilter it self
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I meant the gasket that goes behind the "holder" and the engine block - that is were it is leaking - not from the oilfilter it self
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Those gaskets come in the lower set which includes the oil pan, timing cover and a bunch of others and I'm not sure if they are available individually. I'd say 131 is the one you need.
They are quite easily made out of a piece of gasket paper/card too, so no need to buy a whole lower gasket set.
Removing the filter head from the block is an easy task, so,fixing that leak shouldn't take more than an hour or so once you have supplies on hand. Use of a sealant on either side of the new gasket should assure a leak free assembly.
On the subject of language ( since this thread went off topic regarding that ), Skye edited the subject line...........and subsequent posts, so I can only imagine the word "screwed" is a tamer version of what preceded it.
Nothing further really needs to be said after that.
Either way Dick Moritz, in addition to being the language police, albeit a very polite one, it might have been a good time to offer some constructive input to the OP's problem at the same time.
I believe it is quite possible, the OP being from Denmark and having a Germanic last name that English and perhaps even Danish are not his native tongue, so a little latitude might be in order.
Hope the info in the first paragraph is of use Mark, and good luck with the leak.
BTW, that looks to be a genuine BMC Gold Seal engine, so your car does not have the engine which it left the factory with.
The 8G engine number prefix is visible in shot #3 of your initial post.
Here's some more info on BMC engines I found on MGAGuru's site for anyone who's interested, obviously the focus is MGA, but there is pertinent info for all BMC owners.
http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/be100.htm
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-04-01 10:29 AM by 7mg2.
They are quite easily made out of a piece of gasket paper/card too, so no need to buy a whole lower gasket set.
Removing the filter head from the block is an easy task, so,fixing that leak shouldn't take more than an hour or so once you have supplies on hand. Use of a sealant on either side of the new gasket should assure a leak free assembly.
On the subject of language ( since this thread went off topic regarding that ), Skye edited the subject line...........and subsequent posts, so I can only imagine the word "screwed" is a tamer version of what preceded it.
Nothing further really needs to be said after that.
Either way Dick Moritz, in addition to being the language police, albeit a very polite one, it might have been a good time to offer some constructive input to the OP's problem at the same time.
I believe it is quite possible, the OP being from Denmark and having a Germanic last name that English and perhaps even Danish are not his native tongue, so a little latitude might be in order.
Hope the info in the first paragraph is of use Mark, and good luck with the leak.
BTW, that looks to be a genuine BMC Gold Seal engine, so your car does not have the engine which it left the factory with.
The 8G engine number prefix is visible in shot #3 of your initial post.
Here's some more info on BMC engines I found on MGAGuru's site for anyone who's interested, obviously the focus is MGA, but there is pertinent info for all BMC owners.
http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/be100.htm
Andy
NAMGBR# 20-7738
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-04-01 10:29 AM by 7mg2.
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Hi Mark
Sorry bout the confusion with the language.
Did you remove the oil filter adapter from the motor as that's my thoughts after reading your post. If that's the case then I would recommend you make a gasket. You should have gasket material available though your auto supply stores. Buy a bit extra as you may mess up the first pass at making a new gasket, besides you can always find uses for extra gasket material.
Take the adapter off the motor and place a new piece of suitable material and thickness of your old gasket on top of the adapter. Take a ball peen or suitable small hammer and gently tap around the adapter until you have a copy of your old gasket. I usually start on the interior portion of the gasket you are making and after a number of passes around the configuration you will find you have a copy of the interior of your adapter. Gently push the excess material and remove it. You will have an exact copy of your adapter interior. Do the same procedure for the outside of the gasket and you have a perfectly suitable gasket to install. Best to tap gently and make multiple passes to produce the best copy.
Bolt on the new gasket you made and off you go!
Iceman
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Sorry bout the confusion with the language.
Did you remove the oil filter adapter from the motor as that's my thoughts after reading your post. If that's the case then I would recommend you make a gasket. You should have gasket material available though your auto supply stores. Buy a bit extra as you may mess up the first pass at making a new gasket, besides you can always find uses for extra gasket material.
Take the adapter off the motor and place a new piece of suitable material and thickness of your old gasket on top of the adapter. Take a ball peen or suitable small hammer and gently tap around the adapter until you have a copy of your old gasket. I usually start on the interior portion of the gasket you are making and after a number of passes around the configuration you will find you have a copy of the interior of your adapter. Gently push the excess material and remove it. You will have an exact copy of your adapter interior. Do the same procedure for the outside of the gasket and you have a perfectly suitable gasket to install. Best to tap gently and make multiple passes to produce the best copy.
Bolt on the new gasket you made and off you go!
Iceman
Atlanta GA
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