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Battery cut off switch
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Hi could anyone guide me on how to fit a battery cut off switch (red toggle type). I have basic electrical knowledge and it would help to know best place to fit it, and to which cables. I have bought a switch, but I havent bought anything else, I assume I must need some cables? Thanks!
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Much depends on where you want to mount the switch, how you want to mount the battery switch and what sort of terminal end is fitted to the positive batter cable. This will determine the cab;e issue for you.
More info is needed.
If the switch that you bought is just the two terminal black plastic sort with the removable red key, it's only for shutting off the battery and preventing the engine from staring until the thief discovers your switch and jams some tin foil on the back side. It won't stop the engine from running should you run into something of have a dash fire or whatever.
The all metal gold colored/anodized switches with the four terminals still won't stop that tin foil carrying thief, but the WILL shut down all of the electrics at once in case of a fire or accident or other catastrophe.
Are you using it as a system wide kill switch or a battery shut-off switch? Theft protection or theft AND fire protection?
More info needed to advise you correctly.
Luck—
TC
More info is needed.
If the switch that you bought is just the two terminal black plastic sort with the removable red key, it's only for shutting off the battery and preventing the engine from staring until the thief discovers your switch and jams some tin foil on the back side. It won't stop the engine from running should you run into something of have a dash fire or whatever.
The all metal gold colored/anodized switches with the four terminals still won't stop that tin foil carrying thief, but the WILL shut down all of the electrics at once in case of a fire or accident or other catastrophe.
Are you using it as a system wide kill switch or a battery shut-off switch? Theft protection or theft AND fire protection?
More info needed to advise you correctly.
Luck—
TC
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You want to route a big fat battery cable into the cockpit. Connect to another switch that's subject to the contacts melting after it gets some age on it, and another cable going back out. All subject to insulation failure and non fused direct short to ground. My mini had the battery in the trunk and my MGB GT had the batterries under the floor behind the seats, both developed shorts after they where old.
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"2 terminal, red removable key. Objective is to use the device to stop battery running down when not in use. Hoping to fit somewhere in the cockfit… "
To avoid the dangers of routing such a high current cable into, and then back out of, the passenger compartment, I drilled a hole through the top of my driver's footwell and installed the switch through the hole. The location was right near the ground wire so I did't have to re-route anything, and the red key sticks down, just to the left of my steering column where it can not be seen but can still be easily reached to switch on/off.
Throw a 3A fuse across the terminals if you want to keep your station pre-sets/digital clock running, and just use it as an anti-theft device (and replace the fuse each time you forget!), and store the car on a battery tender. Or, pull the fuse and shut it down.
By the way, a battery will last longest if stored on a battery tender.
Norm
To avoid the dangers of routing such a high current cable into, and then back out of, the passenger compartment, I drilled a hole through the top of my driver's footwell and installed the switch through the hole. The location was right near the ground wire so I did't have to re-route anything, and the red key sticks down, just to the left of my steering column where it can not be seen but can still be easily reached to switch on/off.
Throw a 3A fuse across the terminals if you want to keep your station pre-sets/digital clock running, and just use it as an anti-theft device (and replace the fuse each time you forget!), and store the car on a battery tender. Or, pull the fuse and shut it down.
By the way, a battery will last longest if stored on a battery tender.
Norm
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As everyone suggests, use one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-Battery-Link-Terminal-Quick-Cut-off-Disconnect-Master-Kill-Shut-Switch-/171243247555?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27dee497c3&vxp=mtr
Of for longer term, just disconnect and remove the battery. The safest bet yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-Battery-Link-Terminal-Quick-Cut-off-Disconnect-Master-Kill-Shut-Switch-/171243247555?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27dee497c3&vxp=mtr
Of for longer term, just disconnect and remove the battery. The safest bet yet.
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Norn, I like the way you have done yours and this is along the same idea I'm planning on mine when I get that far. Maybe a different location.
If I autocross my car will have to run in a modified class and I will be required to have one in easy reach from the outside of the car. May put the switch in the engine compartment on the firewall and run a long shaft thru to the dash with the handle there.
I'll have to work out the details when I get that far.
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If I autocross my car will have to run in a modified class and I will be required to have one in easy reach from the outside of the car. May put the switch in the engine compartment on the firewall and run a long shaft thru to the dash with the handle there.
I'll have to work out the details when I get that far.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-20 05:53 PM by ronlcraven.
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I have a car fitted with standard looking cables but with a little lever type cam lock to tighten the post clamp. Very handy. I have no need for anything else since pulling a clamp only takes seconds. Believe they come from Speedway Motors or Summit.
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I installed a battery cutoff switch on my Sprite. It is the type with the RED KEY. It is located on the inside of the firewall behind the TACH. All of the cables are still in the engine compartment. I did it mainly as a theft deterrent. Someone would really have to look hard to find the switch. It is a very clean installation
I keep the car on a battery tender when it is not going to be used for a long period of time.
Richard
I keep the car on a battery tender when it is not going to be used for a long period of time.
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Rather than cut off the positive side, I find it much better to take the ground side out of the circuit.
I mounted mine in the trunk to act as a theft deterrent. It was also closer to the battery so the wiring was easy.
I mounted mine in the trunk to act as a theft deterrent. It was also closer to the battery so the wiring was easy.
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