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Markp61 Silver Member Mark Pasquill
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I was checking on line for wrenches for 3 eared knocks off. Came across some rather expensive ones in the region of $300 and home made example. Picture attached. I intend to try and make one akin to the Plywood wrench for the two eared ones. Just curious if anyone else has come up with anything. Thank you.


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Rob-USLE Rob DE JOODE
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Wow, that's an convinient size for in the boot.

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As they are called "knock offs" why not use a BFH?



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ozieagle Gold Member Herb Adler
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I have a big rubber mallet, that I use on my two eared knock offs. Sometimes needs one or two extra hard whacks.

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MGB567 Barrie Braxton
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Two ears came with a copper mallet (discussed before) so why wouldn't that work on three ears? Of course if you just want to make one just because you can I say go for it.



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Markp61 Silver Member Mark Pasquill
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In reply to # 3644673 by MGB567 Two ears came with a copper mallet (discussed before) so why wouldn't that work on three ears? Of course if you just want to make one just because you can I say go for it.

I suppose for the same reason, someone came up with the wooden wrench for the two eared, just didn't fancy mashing on the new bling grinning smiley I have the correct mallet with my current octagon nock offs, just looking at protecting the chrome a little, other than a rag or a towel over the surface before applying mallet cool smiley

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I use the excellent 2 ear version of the spinner removal tool from Four Ashes, however ... I notice on the attached link that they have developed a 3 ear version. May be worthwhile dropping them an email.

The wooden "cut out " style are ok but don't last very long when hammering the bejesus out of it, plus the hammer gets veryclose to the body work.

Should be simple to make a three eared wooden template .

http://www.fourashesgarage.co.uk/index.php?webpage=product_detail.php&product_id=73068&cID=20082

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this must be a Joke ??...you surely must be kidding me if considering needing this ....lolololololololololol...leverage is everything but that is too humorous for description .....confused smiley

forget a towel , rag or the like etc ....though I feel the same in regards to marking the chrome especially with what is offered up these days as replacements so hence have no faith in any of the hammers whether it be copper , brass or lead etc ..... but you can use inch and a half fuel tubing over the ears when using the copper hammer .....it is sacrificial but small enough to keep in the boot/trunk , cheap and it really shouldn't take that much force to loosen ....there is also the smaller wooden adapters offered up but I wouldn't trust them ....

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TJ

thank you for the link I have sent them an email

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In reply to # 3644673 by MGB567 Two ears came with a copper mallet (discussed before) so why wouldn't that work on three ears? Of course if you just want to make one just because you can I say go for it.

Even a copper hammer can damage chrome plated brass knock offs. I have always used the hide half of my hammers for wheel removal and installation.



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In reply to # 3644683 by little G this must be a Joke ??...you surely must be kidding me if considering needing this ....lolololololololololol...leverage is everything but that is too humorous for description .....confused smiley

forget a towel , rag or the like etc ....though I feel the same in regards to marking the chrome especially with what is offered up these days as replacements so hence have no faith in any of the hammers whether it be copper , brass or lead etc ..... but you can use inch and a half fuel tubing over the ears when using the copper hammer .....it is sacrificial but small enough to keep in the boot/trunk , cheap and it really shouldn't take that much force to loosen ....there is also the smaller wooden adapters offered up but I wouldn't trust them ....

No joke, it exists, found it on the Healy forum its 6ft long , just don't fancy it sticking out the boot hot smiley

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Guys - a plastic dead blow hammer works just great and won't mash the chrome. If you don't have one, just use a sacrificial short length of 2x4 between the hammer and the ears.

I don't recall having any issues in the old days with bruising chrome using zinc, lead, whatever hammers, but half the cars out there are carrying new knock offs and they do seem to be softer and more easily damaged.



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GMB3 George Badger
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Large dead blow hammer works every time.



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saanich2006 Robert Browning
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The problem (one the many) in the image, is even being made out of wood, with that much leverage you could damage, strip, severely over tighten the knock offs.



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GMB3 George Badger
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1 - Damage, ?????
2 - "Overtighten" maybe. Just a require a larger force to loosen. A big lead hammer, or the tightening device.
3 - Strip, I doubt it. These use large threads, the hubs are steel and the KO brass. The Rudge system works by ramps on both ends centering the wheel and once tight I have no idea how many foot-pounds would be to be required to strip the threads. See #2.

IMHO, the largest problem with the Rudge system is the lack of grease on the ramps and splines. They self tighten so no great force is required to "knock" them on. Of course, if they have been installed correctly and not reversed.

In reply to # 3645013 by saanich2006 The problem (one the many) in the image, is even being made out of wood, with that much leverage you could damage, strip, severely over tighten the knock offs.



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